Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Here are the big benefits of using testosterone in a steroid cycle: Other additional benefits include better endurance, energy and stamina, higher libido, better bone mass thanks to increased red blood cell production. Steroids are an androgen-promoting compound; this is why its so common for women to develop body hair and a deeper voice when using steroids. Week 16-18: Clomid 50 mg per day". Thanks guys. Test shortage:icon_roll I don't even use this HG one mL stuff. My question is, if its better to try bigger Test E dose only for example 400-500mg week, or better to keep test low side and add another comp like deca ( 200mg). Quantity/Drug Week 13 Week 15 (16 days) 2500iu every other day for 16 days Week 16 Week 17 (2 weeks) 40mg nolva, 150mg Clomid I'd like to hear guys experiences. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. From there you can tweak and adjust your cycles to get the best results. HOWEVER, there are a few products that do in fact work well. remember is not a huge open bodybuilder , is a classic. If he didn't want to say it then by all means say "I can't discuss my drug use" better than being untruthful. But they will bounce back. Did 0.5 E3D(still a tad more, would have done 0.25 if I had the pill cutter I have now) and . For such cycles, incorporating just a TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) dosage of around 200-300 milligrams (mg) per week is ideal. Let's just tell all the young ones who are getting into this sport that they can also become pro bodybuilders on 500mgs of gear a weak. Estrogen is anabolic, better to have it too high than too low IMO. And I am currently taking 0.5 Arimidex E3.5 days. Here I am like a little bitch only on 200mg. Testosterone is hugely powerful, but your gains will only be as good as your workout regime and your diet. Someone who is a low aromatizernot all that rarecan take 1000 mg Test with no AI and no sides, no problem. You must log in or register to reply here. Testosterone also acts as an anti-catabolic that blocks hormones like cortisol and therefore helps prevent the breakdown of muscle tissue (muscle catabolism). STACK50 FOR 50% OFF STACKS, USE CODE SAVE20 FOR 20% OFF SINGLES Copyright 2022 SteroidCycle.org. Proudly sportin my ICD (Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator and pacemaker). Cruising on ~500mg test/week. You are using an out of date browser. Testosterone is the main sex hormone in males which gives you all the characteristics that make you a man. On the other hand, Propionate has a quick 2-3 weeks detection period. The main testosterone esters youll see consistently talked about by bodybuilders and athletes are: Testosterone Cypionate and Enanthate are considered to be very similar and even in the medical field these two esters are often interchangeable. That's what I meant about keeping the box it came in. There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. Very interesting. OR 07-24-2009, 08:10 AM #2 BG 1000+ is advanced. I did not have much gains on my last cycle so i guess it is time to add something. New to gear too. And each future cycle the same, could work. Supercharge your workouts with some of CrazyBulks powerful strength supplements. Kinda catchy, right? Best. While both induce higher testosterone levels, the question is often asked: Is one better than the other?. Since testosterone cypionate is an FDA-regulated medication, youre going to need a prescription to get hold of it legally. . Please give your opinion. Cycle #1- TESTOSTERONE ONLY. For compounds like EQ and primo, 16 weeks is recommended to get the most out of it. Didnt use AI until my 4 week bloods showed e2 of 65 or so. Curious about trying testosterone cyp to increase your t-levels and in turn your gains? I'm surprised your DHEA conversion isn't higher. Get blood work see where youre levels are at, how you feel. Some may prefer 250mg every five days but 500mg per week will be the most common. (6000mg total out of 20cc's) / (500mg/week) = 12 weeks I preferably would like to run the longer cycle at the lower dose, just wondering if my gains would really be effected since 500mg test is usually recommended by most of the members. For recovery (PCT) use 0.5mg/day Arimidex for 1 month post last injection. What type of Test? Yep, dozens of posts covering both sides of it's possible/it's not possible, he's a liar/he's not a liar mostly from people who have no idea what anyone else uses. ", http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s-database.html. Throughout the cycle (or at least on hand) use an aromatase inhibitor (AI) to combat estrogen related side effects (0.5mg/eod Arimidex or 12.5mg/day Aromasin). Did 500mg Test C split over 250 twice per week as well here. Thats why, a couple decades later, the FDA restricted the use of cypionate for only cases of hypogonadism and andropause (severely low levels of testosterone). Does this matter that much? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There really is never any requirement to add other compounds, you definitely dont have to start stacking multiple compounds you can always make gains on test only, i assure you of that its entirely up to you what you decide to run.. remember that more is not always better of course stacking will provide more synergy and different types of benefits depending upon the compounds you use but remember, all steroids are derivatives of testosterone, just altered bro. From anabolic steroids to HGH, to peptides, insulin, and supplements, I've done it at some point in my life and I can relate. Keeping it simple for your first steroid cycle is ideal, and testosterone is the best way to do that. 2000 mg Test E/wk vs 500 mg/wk (half life 7 days for sake of argument) 2000 mg/wk cycle: Since the 50s, cypionate has been known by several other brand names including Depovirin, Durandro, and Duratest. Wait and get your bloods pulled again dont just take it because you might need it, take it when you know you need it. If youre searching for ways to maximize your muscle mass, chances are you dont really have low testosterone issues, and therefore dont qualify for that all-important doctors prescription. DIM blocks the effects of testosterone. Without a prescription, the price tag can be incredibly steep and even more worryingly, the products may not be safe, or even genuine. Its ingredients are scientifically formulated to mimic the effects of testosterone cypionate in a much more gentle, natural way. end . But then again I have elite genetics.lol. Is it the same for someone younger blasting with test levels at 2,500-3,000+? FWIW, I would expect my total T on 500 mg/wk of Test E pinned M, W, F and measured on Friday before my shot to be around 3050 ng/dL. FWIW, I would expect my total T on 500 mg/wk of Test E pinned M, W, F and measured on Friday before my shot to be around 3050 ng/dL. 16 weeks of 500mg and then off. My drugs just got to CVS like 10 mins before I called rn. More Plates More Dates 1.72M subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 597K views 1 year ago. Keep in mind that a dose for a beginner is 400 to 500 mg and youll need that amount three times per week for 12 weeks. Couch potato fat asses care that Tom Brady doesn't eat tomatoes because they believe they cause inflammation. Yes we all like the number of 500mg per week for test Cyp / E . Dont have any experience with other compounds. Best case scenario, youll be paying $1,200 for a full cycle. But im sorry im going to have to say I wont do that. It's a great compound. NO BS!! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is your adex pharma grade? Begin Clomid 2 full weeks after your last injection and take it at 100mg/day for days 1-10, then 50mg/day days 11-20. As I said, Anything over physiological leveks of test is sufficient for making unnatural gains. Abscess and other complications are injection sites are another risk factor in both the short and long term. All rights reserved. AI is there for a reason, dont over do it though and crash your estrogen because that will be worse. Not really lol, I feel abit tired, slightly oily and my nuts are defo hanging higher. No reason to wait till week 7 for on-cycle bloods. I know many say 400mg but does anyone use low dose deca stacked with test for bulking and still get a lot of gains? Just worried about gyno but I guess I have raloxifene on hand so that shouldnt be an issue. OR STACK30 FOR 30% OFF STACKS Hi guys, Id appreciate some feedback on my bloods if possible. LMAO, from my EXPERIENCE you don't grow after 12 weeks, gains stop. 500 is enough Bro.when men with normal test levels cycle..their natty test production shuts down so its the same, What am I fu*k*n Stupid Today?? This hormone increases muscle size and strength, and a testosterone only cycle is usually the first step taken for a new steroid user. Thank you. 10 years ago, nobody had ever heard of a drug shortage at pharmacies. Basically run 700-750mg EW. It does depend a bit on how often you are pinning, when you are testing in relation to pinning, carrier oil, and individual differences, etc. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 500 mg is a low dose in that bodybuilders usually start from there and work up. I cruise with 250mg test-e/350mg masteron or proviron per week. Are you growing DD tits yet? . Stronger bones and improved mental clarity, focus and energy are often additional benefits of testosterone. 28-Oct-2015, 02:43 PM #7. Youll be injecting testosterone cypionate three times per week (Monday, Wednesday, and Friday). Testosterone is a male androgen hormone which is also often known as a steroid hormone or an anabolic steroid. Now, to the average steroid user, that probably doesn't look like a bad cycle outline and they may even be asking themselves what exactly is wrong with this. The amount of muscle gained in the 125 mg group was pretty substantial. Understanding esters in organic chemistry can be difficult for the non-scientist, but you will soon come across several different esters of testosterone in the world of steroids and needless to say, you will want to know what it all means. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. I know, I know, I am one of the 1st epople here to tell others they do not need cycle that high! Look into DIM for a natural estrogen manager. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. For example, Testosterone cypionate and enanthate have a detection time of three months. Serum levels will be fairly stable by week 3 and you'll have a good idea of your new homeostasis with exogenous T. I'd get them now. Re: 500mg test cyp year round. Some people dont need them. Even a low dose of testosterone can provide a solid boost to performance and gains, and if youre just starting out you might want to test the waters with the lowest most effective dosage. (PCT) Week 15-17 100mg/day Clomid for the first 10 days, then 50mg/day Clomid for another 10 days (20 days in total). Sveiki atvyk Kulturizmas.net diskusij forum! But overall I dont have any noticeable gyno symptoms. Dont use caber as it down-regulates dopamine receptors and is awful to come off of. You can make good gains from a lesser dose, say 200-400mg, but 500mg should be low on sides and produce some solid gains if you train and eat properly. This is why learning about the different esters, that Ill cover in more detail below, is important. In addition to being essential sex hormone for life as a man, testosterone is also a natural anabolic steroid that promotes the building of muscle and strength these are the anabolic properties of testosterone. Is MK 677 Ibutamoren Something You Should Use For Muscle Building? It's only going to get worse from here. I knew that!! Going any lower than 250mg is unlikely to provide many benefits since you will only be at testosterone replacement levels by replacing your natural testosterone but not exceeding that level in other words, a low dose cycle of 250-300mg weekly may provide the best balance between gaining benefits and minimizing side effects. What Is IGF-1, Its Benefits, and Possible Side Effects. Also keep on hand a Dopamine agonist like Dostinex to reduce the amount of prolactin if necessary. Yes sir, that's how my stash got it's beginnings. You cant go wrong with Testosterone. I don't need an AI with even a gram of test, I think very few people actually need one with 500mg a week. Vote. It acts on different pathways than a testosterone derivative or a typical androgenic steroid, and it gives you all of the benefits without the side effects. . Its really important to play close attention to how youre responding to the effects of steroids after you start taking them. Bloodwork - 500Mg/week Test E + Oral Winstrol 70Mg/day DadStrength Aug 13, 2020 DadStrength New member Awards 0 Aug 13, 2020 #1 Blood work at 10 weeks in on Test E and 3 weeks into Winstrol for anyone who wants to see the effects on bloodwork. Any time your test goes up your estrogen is going to increase because a certain % of it will convert over. It's ridiculous that pharmacies can't stay stocked with maintenance meds. 500mg test Punkrocker Apr 26, 2021 Punkrocker Active member Awards 2 Apr 26, 2021 #1 I met a 78 year old man at the gym who was fucking ripped for being 78. I believe that your E2 should be proportionate to your test levels. It's tried and tested. Somewhere around 3000-3200ng/dL measuring right before an injection. He Took 500 Mg Test For 15 Weeks Without ANY Diet Or Lifting Experience And This Is What Happened. 16 weeks of 500mg and then off. I just make it easy and don't believe any of them. (0 members and 1 guests). I also said to him to first try something that won't shut down his natural testosterone production (turkesterone, ecdysterone or MK-677), but he claims that doesn't happen on such doses. But yes get bloods. Jan 30, 2010 #3 P They are very damaging to bone density. The wait depends on the amount used plus the half life. Testo-Maxis one such safe, natural alternative. Week 1-10 600mg/week Testosterone Cypionate, 400mg/week Equipoise, Week 11-16 150mg/eod Testosterone Propionate, 50mg/eod Trenbolone Acetate, Week 1-8 250mg/eod Testosterone Enanthate, 200mg/eod Equipoise, Week 9-16 200mg/eod Testosterone Propionate, 100mg/eod Trenbolone Acetate, 50mg/ed Winstrol, Week 1-12 250mg/eod Testosterone Enanthate, 200mg/eod Equipoise, Week 9-20 200mg/eod Testosterone Propionate, 100mg/ed Trenbolone Acetate (150mg/ed week 19-20), 100mg/ed Winstrol, Week 1-15 250mg/e3.5d Testosterone (Enanthate or Cypionate), (Optional) Week 1-6 30-60mg/day Dianabol or 50-100mg/day Anadrol, (PCT) Week 18-20 50mg/day Clomid for 3 weeks (Nolvadex at 40/40/20/20), Week 1-12 500-750mg/week Testosterone (Enanthate/Cypionate), 0.5mg/eod Arimidex. (PCT) Week 18-20 100mg/day Clomid for the first 10 days, then 50mg/day Clomid for 10 more days. Thinking about this cycle for 8 weeks for my bulk: Test e 200mg/week Tren ace 350mg/week (100 mg eod) Caber 0,25mg every 5 days Aromasin 6,25mg x2 a week (on test e pinning days) Test C is classified as an androgen; a term used for hormones that fuel male-focused traits such as a deep voice, body hair and of course, muscle mass. The study also has some issues in regards to being misleading about muscle gain during a cycle. testosterone cypionate or Testo-Max before? For example: 125mg / 250mg / 375mg / 500mg / 500mg / 375mg / 250mg / 125mg (each is per week). I got that result by multiplying my TT result from 200 mg/wk pinned M, W, F, and collected Friday before my pin by 500/200. Heart attack survivor and gym junkie. The only time you would use less, for example, a testosterone cypionate 200mg dose, would be when youre stacking it with other anabolic compounds such as Winstrol and Human Growth Hormone (HGH). That is when I started thinking about that! Throughout the cycle (or at least on hand) its good to take an aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Arimidex at 0.5mg/eod or 12.5mg/day Aromasin. Despite being almost interchangeable as an effective way for bodybuilders to get more testosterone, the debate still rages on bodybuilding forums comparing the miniscule difference between Test C vs Test E. Theres only one real difference thats been proven: the chemical makeup. Guys save yourself time, money, and headache, and start growing and getting shredded today!! Throughout the cycle you can also use 0.5mg/ed Arimidex. What test level (ng/dl) on blood work should someone expect to have from taking 500mg of test cyp per week? Quantity/Drug Week 1 Week 4 (4 weeks) 500 mg Test Enanthate Week 5 Week 12 (8 weeks) 600 mg Test Enanthate PCT Cycle start . Seek medical advice before starting any supplement regimen. Things like Tren which are extremely harsh, I would run 12 weeks or less..more like 10. Dont take anything until your bloods dictate you need..everyone aromatises differentlydepending on a lot factors bf %being one.high and low can feel the same in my op.. As ive had bothpersonnally id rather have highactually dont mind it a bit highi dont hardly ever even use emtbhbut ive ran bloods so many times i kind of know where im at when im running..and i usually run the same ammt of same compounds when onwith minor variations.. @500mg test a week I take 12.5 Aromisin a week. Often there is only an atom or two difference between esters, making little difference to their effects but mainly changing their uptake properties. Most of these synthetic derivatives of testosterone have been developed for medical use to treat conditions like low or no testosterone in men. Unlike the test cyp of today, the original Depo-Testosterone was used for more than just curing low testosterone production issues. Just started PCT. Steroids and the required post cycle therapy drugs are by no means cheap, so unless youre totally committed to sticking to a highly disciplined and very intense workout program and a diet that supports your gains, then steroids will be of little benefit otherwise. Personally, I would do 12 weeks @ 500mg + var @ 60-80mg/day if you have the money for it but you would have to start now if you're on week 8 and you want to reap real var benefits. Its well know that long term use of any steroids can cause damage to your health, especially when youve been doing many years of heavy use. im going to do a 50mg a day with 500mg of test-e added in 2 weeks into my anadrol cycle as i cant afford all of it right this second, ill be running 4-6 weeks ana 8-12 weeks of test-e, my knowledge on . Testosterone is king when it comes to anabolic steroids. Overall var is mild for toxicity and sides. Anabolic steroids are another example of an androgenic supplement. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a28ce37f8292b7c For those who've used testosterone cypionate in the past, the dosage can be increased to 600 or 700 mg; again, this is for a 12-week cycle. Some people are more prone to side effects than others, but with standard dosages most guys can tolerate testosterone well provided essential post cycle therapy is also carried out. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. AR's ORIGINAL ANABOLIC OUTLAW~ [RIP-8/20/11], Educate B4 You Medicate~HOF~RIP Our Brother~. No one knows what anyone does, no one should care. A basic Clomid PCT protocol would run for four weeks at 50mg per day for the first two weeks and dropping to 25mg daily for the final two weeks of PCT. Crazy Bulk is highly effective, affordable, and legal. Estrogen good make muscle grow big like bull. What you'll need are 2/ 10 ml bottles of Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate. Testosterone cypionate is a popular esterified variant of testosterone along with testosterone enanthate (Test E). Lol Starting to wonder because I am lucky enough to =know my levels if I should Kick it up a notch and actually give my body a full 500mg EW of additional test. You are using an out of date browser. PCT options include SERMs and aromatase inhibitors to block estrogen. Stacking multiple steroids when youre a novice is going to confuse not only your results, but your side effects and the steps you need to take in post-cycle therapy. Anadrol Cycle Weeks 1-8: 200 mg/week Deca Durabolin, 500mg/week testosterone Cypionate, continue on with Arimadex at 1/2 mg every other day. On Fouad's Abiad Youtube Channel, Ian V stated that Bumstead only takes 500mgs per week of Test. I've already talked about the 1 vial steroid cycle enough in the past, let's get into the beginner 500 mg/wk test cycle. I feel that it should mention that some of the lean tissue gained is likely water, and will drop quickly after cessation of Testosterone. Should I just wait to see how I'm feeling for 4 more weeks and take it if I feel like I need it? In the most extreme cases, failure of the kidney, liver or heart can occur resulting in death. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps it is misinterpreted a bit by readers too. In my early twenties I messed around with roids, didn't research enough, never really did a proper cycle due to estrogen sides and didn't know much about pct. 400mg for 10 weeks would be fine, You know im gonna say your to young!! Only did for 10 weeks. Use hcg every other day one cc and clomid in the morning and novadex in the afternoon. My drugs just got to CVS like 10 mins before I called rn. Well, let me just tell you that the skepticism I had at first is completely gone after experiencing the effects of Testo-Max. The majority of anabolic steroids you hear about are one form or another of testosterone, and usually synthetic derivatives of testosterone. This can be anywhere from a few weeks to three months after your last injection. 12-week Testosterone / Deca / Dianabol Cycle For this advanced bulking cycle you'll need Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate, Dianabol, Deca-Durabolin, Arimidex and Clomid. In basic terms, an ester is a synthetic derivative of testosterone. end . Here is an example of advanced Testosterone Propionate cutting cycle containing Trenbolone and Clenbuterol. Everything was in the normal range pre-cycle. Bodybuilders of all ages are skipping test c in favor of Testo-Max. I don't claim to know everything, what I talk about here is something I've done. Starting to wonder if it is enough! 10-week Test Enanthate/Dianabol cycle For this intermediate cycle you'll need a 2x10ml (250mg/ml) bottles of testosterone (enanthate or cypionate) and 100x10mg Dbol tabs. As far as the chemical structure of both compounds goes, in particular, the carbon ester chain, testosterone enanthate is one shy of test cypionate. . OP be smart, do bloods and take an AI if bloods dictate it is necessary. On the flip side, the androgenic effects in men result in hair loss (from too much DHT) and organ inflammation. total time . For someone less experienced, AN EASY 20lbs. Here is a study on it. Tell us about it in the comments below. Increased cardio output and blood flow to the heart assist with athletic performance. And you could enjoy short-lived benefits that need to be backed up by other anabolics, liver therapy or a PCT. The other 200 are just getting me back to a normal level. Lol So, if youre looking for a legal alternative to testosterone injections then Testo-Max is very comparable and best of all is you wont mess with your normal hormone levels when you stop using it!! but yes is classic and he can use always low test and 2gr bolde + 2gr trenbolone and 500mg test ( so is possible to be true yes ) . My first test 2 inject was this last sunday in my right quad and damn the pip was been pretty intense, but ive been told it should calm down. As we touched on above, testosterone cypionate is a prescription medication that bodybuilders tend to self-inject. Mind must have went into some type of Steroidal Stuper. With tons of advice and research, I pulled bloods before, 4 weeks in and plan on doing 3-4 weeks after my PCT. Did 500mg Test C split over 250 twice per week as well here. Our website and the domain name crazybulk.com is representative of products that may enhance blood levels of hormones in the body. The highest risk for liver disease when it comes to steroids comes from those which are taken orally due to the slower methods of clearing the liver. I never understand the "you shouldn't care" sentiment. If any symptoms of gyno appear during the cycle use 0.5mg/eod Arimidex throughout the cycle. i have 3 cycles of 500mg test a week. IIRC, they were taking the test E shots once a week, and measuring in the trough. Goggle then and find out if other forums or other ppl have used those a sites. Of course, if you also think youll be exposed to drug testing, its important to know the half life of what youve taken so you know how much remains in your body at any point in time.

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